Almost all of us will or have gone thru a ceremony of passing similar to what Logan is experiencing... The most similar for me was when my maternal grandfather passed. The stages of grief around his passing were quite intense, especially the denial and anger. And I experienced a similar psychic denial at the funeral. That was not my grandfather in that coffin as far as I was concerned. And I didn't understand, as I don't think Logan understands, that the funeral ceremony is as much for the other family and friends to acknowledge and accept, as it is for immediate family, maybe more. And anger like Logan has, I had, especially in looking to deflect my grief on the doctors who treated my grandfather. Logan is riddled with guilt for helping to facilitate the rescue, which he is trying to deflect on Misty, and to Luke to some degree. But not on Tom!
Now Logan resorts to a juvenile outburst which will hopefully go a long way to defuse his pent up anger. Now he has to confront his blame toward a conscious and aware Misty! How does she react toward him? She could just call him an idiot, lol! But doesn't she harbor some latent guilt for escaping from Luke's compound and beating up Logan, which resulted in her 'capture' by PG? I think there is plenty of guilt for everyone, going back to the birthday party and even going back to first contact and rescue, if anyone cared to break it down!
So that's my brain dump this time!
Also Jenny, the incorporation of certain elements and added details of previous scenes or subsequent consequences do not go unnoticed BTW... 😊! Thanks
Yes, I do believe that most of use here will have some experience with a funerary service of some kind, and especially for the young, it is never easy.
I think one tend to be somewhat self absorbed in such circumstances. Logan definitely is, even to the extent that he expects Luke to ease his suffering in spite of Luke hurting himself. I wonder if he thinks it is harder for him losing a brother than for Luke to have lost an 'adopted son'? As if Logan's own grief is nearer because Tom was his only family, forgetting that Luke also has no other living family either.
I am actually curious how Luke's version of this part would come out, I've never explored it. Hmmm... Maybe some kindling at some point.
Logan's juvenile outburst as you put it, is a product of his self absorption, as I'm sure you realize, and blaming anyone and everyone else for their part in Tom's death would be normal wouldn't it? He's placed his brother on a pedestal, sanctifying his memory, setting aside all the times Tom did him wrong. And this all stems from guilt and anger, you're spot on.
Misty is in a very vulnerable place here. You'll see Friday, if you'll allow me the early hint.
You're also right that the feelings all tie back to the everything that's happened from the beginning and I like to know you're noticing the little details I incorporated for certain people's benefit. 😉 In truth it's not all for you. It all adds up to tying the story together as we are in the last third of the book now if it were a book that is.
I do enjoy your brain dumps. And I'm glad I didn't lose you by killing Tom off. I think I lost one or two others and I was a little worried there for a bit...
Jenny I am so invested in your story (and yes I have to remind myself that it is your story) that you couldn't possibly loose me. I worry about myself sometimes because when I have bought into a story like yours, in that suspended zone, the characters are terribly real, and hurt and disappointment can be real! The physical world I am sitting in can virtually disappear and it can be a bit of a struggle to reorient to the real world.
I'm glad you reminded me that I am not your only fan. Sometimes prone to getting a 'swelled' head in a colloquial expression here. 🙄
One comment about Luke as you mentioned his point of view here. You used journaling briefly from Luke as a method to show his point of view in one scene recently. I don't think you have used that approach before, but I think it could be effective for his character.
Well that's nice to know! Thanks Frank! But it is my story... 🤨🤣🤣🤣
Anyway, your comment made me VERY happy!
When I first started writing, as a teenager, I had the inevitably naïve dream of becoming famous, young fantasy author takes the world by storm, you know? But then I realized what hard work it was to write a book and break into the industry and as I got a little older and wiser I decided I was in no way ready to do that amount of work on top of being more than a little embarrassed by the directions this story was taking and all that, which kind of stopped me in my tracks.
Eventually I decided it would be my secret hideout that no one else could enter, and it stayed that way for many years. I think that it was in that period that I decided that I don't ever have to be (never mind want to be) famous because of this, I just want to know that my story stuck in one person's mind, just one life influenced, and I will be satisfied. And you've just told me that I've done that. Thankyou Frank.
So, no, you're not my only fan, but you are by far my most engaged, and as such you are immensely precious to me. Thanks for being here. Thanks for caring (almost) as much as I do about this silly little story. Having fans adds a whole extra layer of worthwhile to sticking with it. 🧡
Having followed this from the beginning, riding the roller coaster of how I feel about each character, I understand what you are struggling with. I hate that I'm saying this as it comes out of my mouth into my microphone because I hated this advice whenever it was given to me, but I think the emotions you are feeling... As I would say about Logan... Is that if you rush to get away from them, they absolutely always forever sneak back up on you as long as there is unfinished business; trying to avoid them never brings closure :) Closure sucks, but it's necessary or else you never fully move on. For the first time in a while, I think I really am getting to understand Logan and look at him in a whole new light, for what it's worth. Good stuff, young lady!
My dearest Dave. I hear you. This, needing closure is exactly where I'm at. And it fits right? After a loss? I've recently lost someone, who in many ways was a model for Tom as he is in the story even though this person only came into my life many years after Tom was conceptualized. This part is hard but it is essential to get our characters to where they need to be. Thanks for reminding me of that. 🧡
The burial-
Almost all of us will or have gone thru a ceremony of passing similar to what Logan is experiencing... The most similar for me was when my maternal grandfather passed. The stages of grief around his passing were quite intense, especially the denial and anger. And I experienced a similar psychic denial at the funeral. That was not my grandfather in that coffin as far as I was concerned. And I didn't understand, as I don't think Logan understands, that the funeral ceremony is as much for the other family and friends to acknowledge and accept, as it is for immediate family, maybe more. And anger like Logan has, I had, especially in looking to deflect my grief on the doctors who treated my grandfather. Logan is riddled with guilt for helping to facilitate the rescue, which he is trying to deflect on Misty, and to Luke to some degree. But not on Tom!
Now Logan resorts to a juvenile outburst which will hopefully go a long way to defuse his pent up anger. Now he has to confront his blame toward a conscious and aware Misty! How does she react toward him? She could just call him an idiot, lol! But doesn't she harbor some latent guilt for escaping from Luke's compound and beating up Logan, which resulted in her 'capture' by PG? I think there is plenty of guilt for everyone, going back to the birthday party and even going back to first contact and rescue, if anyone cared to break it down!
So that's my brain dump this time!
Also Jenny, the incorporation of certain elements and added details of previous scenes or subsequent consequences do not go unnoticed BTW... 😊! Thanks
Yes, I do believe that most of use here will have some experience with a funerary service of some kind, and especially for the young, it is never easy.
I think one tend to be somewhat self absorbed in such circumstances. Logan definitely is, even to the extent that he expects Luke to ease his suffering in spite of Luke hurting himself. I wonder if he thinks it is harder for him losing a brother than for Luke to have lost an 'adopted son'? As if Logan's own grief is nearer because Tom was his only family, forgetting that Luke also has no other living family either.
I am actually curious how Luke's version of this part would come out, I've never explored it. Hmmm... Maybe some kindling at some point.
Logan's juvenile outburst as you put it, is a product of his self absorption, as I'm sure you realize, and blaming anyone and everyone else for their part in Tom's death would be normal wouldn't it? He's placed his brother on a pedestal, sanctifying his memory, setting aside all the times Tom did him wrong. And this all stems from guilt and anger, you're spot on.
Misty is in a very vulnerable place here. You'll see Friday, if you'll allow me the early hint.
You're also right that the feelings all tie back to the everything that's happened from the beginning and I like to know you're noticing the little details I incorporated for certain people's benefit. 😉 In truth it's not all for you. It all adds up to tying the story together as we are in the last third of the book now if it were a book that is.
I do enjoy your brain dumps. And I'm glad I didn't lose you by killing Tom off. I think I lost one or two others and I was a little worried there for a bit...
Jenny I am so invested in your story (and yes I have to remind myself that it is your story) that you couldn't possibly loose me. I worry about myself sometimes because when I have bought into a story like yours, in that suspended zone, the characters are terribly real, and hurt and disappointment can be real! The physical world I am sitting in can virtually disappear and it can be a bit of a struggle to reorient to the real world.
I'm glad you reminded me that I am not your only fan. Sometimes prone to getting a 'swelled' head in a colloquial expression here. 🙄
One comment about Luke as you mentioned his point of view here. You used journaling briefly from Luke as a method to show his point of view in one scene recently. I don't think you have used that approach before, but I think it could be effective for his character.
Well that's nice to know! Thanks Frank! But it is my story... 🤨🤣🤣🤣
Anyway, your comment made me VERY happy!
When I first started writing, as a teenager, I had the inevitably naïve dream of becoming famous, young fantasy author takes the world by storm, you know? But then I realized what hard work it was to write a book and break into the industry and as I got a little older and wiser I decided I was in no way ready to do that amount of work on top of being more than a little embarrassed by the directions this story was taking and all that, which kind of stopped me in my tracks.
Eventually I decided it would be my secret hideout that no one else could enter, and it stayed that way for many years. I think that it was in that period that I decided that I don't ever have to be (never mind want to be) famous because of this, I just want to know that my story stuck in one person's mind, just one life influenced, and I will be satisfied. And you've just told me that I've done that. Thankyou Frank.
So, no, you're not my only fan, but you are by far my most engaged, and as such you are immensely precious to me. Thanks for being here. Thanks for caring (almost) as much as I do about this silly little story. Having fans adds a whole extra layer of worthwhile to sticking with it. 🧡
Until tomorrow...
Having followed this from the beginning, riding the roller coaster of how I feel about each character, I understand what you are struggling with. I hate that I'm saying this as it comes out of my mouth into my microphone because I hated this advice whenever it was given to me, but I think the emotions you are feeling... As I would say about Logan... Is that if you rush to get away from them, they absolutely always forever sneak back up on you as long as there is unfinished business; trying to avoid them never brings closure :) Closure sucks, but it's necessary or else you never fully move on. For the first time in a while, I think I really am getting to understand Logan and look at him in a whole new light, for what it's worth. Good stuff, young lady!
My dearest Dave. I hear you. This, needing closure is exactly where I'm at. And it fits right? After a loss? I've recently lost someone, who in many ways was a model for Tom as he is in the story even though this person only came into my life many years after Tom was conceptualized. This part is hard but it is essential to get our characters to where they need to be. Thanks for reminding me of that. 🧡
This makes me very happy🩷